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Saturday, October 1, 2011

Jonathan Franzen Speaks About Occupy Wall Street

Jonathan Franzen on Occupy Wall Street, Obama, Nixon, 

HBO Corrections Series and, yes, Oprah

Jonathan Franzen is for the Occupy Wall Street protests.  In fact, the celebrated novelist is for just about any action that "revives a conversation about economic disparities, and how utterly shafted the middle class is." In a packed session at the New Yorker Festival on Saturday, Franzen elaborated on his politics, his meeting with President Obama, the accomplishments of Richard Nixon, and, of course, several more literary topics.
Politics loomed throughout the discussion, not only because searing social critiques undergird Franzen's most famous books, "Freedom" and "The Corrections," but also because Franzen's fans take his non-fiction narrative seriously.
Moderator David Remnick, the New Yorker editor-in-chief, asked whether Franzen is disappointed with Obama (he isn't), and while there were audience questions about Patty Berglund ("I wanna talk to you about Patty!," as they say on TV) and even Oprah (Franzen started graciously, but added a dig about having to sit through "four segments on Michael Jackson's secret family" before Oprah interviewed him about "Freedom"), people kept returning to politics.
The Wall Street question, which was first out of the gate, had Franzen channeling Elizabeth Warren. "What Republicans call class warfare," he said, is actually a vital, neglected effort to address economic inequality. When real unemployment is at 16 percent, Franzen observed, people "should raise socialist questions."
There is no outlet for that conversation, however, within the major political parties.
In Franzen's telling, President Obama is caught between the populist desires of a downgraded America, and the interests of his elite financial supporters.  "I knew he was tight with Wall Street," Franzen said, recalling his views of Obama before the 2008 election, "the first time I heard about him was from a banker." Franzen said he still "loves" Obama, though, and it's clear that support endures not despite Obama's liberal shortcomings, but because they were already factored into the picture.  "I got a sense of who [Obama] was," Franzen said, somewhat cryptically. "I knew he would never do anything for the environment," he later added.
These are not just idle observations from a distance.  Franzen apparently has some pull on President Obama, who nabbed an advance copy of "Freedom" and then invited the novelist to meet him at the White House last year.  Asked about that meeting, Franzen said their conversation focused not on fiction, but on Nixon.  "He was our last liberal president," Franzen recalled telling Obama, arguing that Nixon's legislative achievements were more liberal than anything Clinton or Obama could ever do.  Obama laughed, Franzen remembered, and said, yeah, the only problem is that Nixon was crazy.
The other quality Franzen deeply appreciates about Obama is his openness to other people's views and ethics.  In conventional political circles, this has come to be associated with weakness and poor negotiation, but I think Franzen means it more in the idealistic sense of practicing a politics of good faith -- or the Jeffersonian ideal that "not every difference of opinion is a difference of principle."  So Franzen credits Obama for rejecting the (increasingly common) premise "that all the good people share my politics."  Instead, one can acknowledge that there may be perfectly good people who, for example, voted for Rick Santorum, Franzen said, although he volunteered that he'd still "have a hard time being good friends with someone who voted for Santorum."  This came in response to a question from The Nation's Eric Alterman, who said that while he probably shares the author's politics, he wondered how "Freedom" might leave one feeling hopeless.  Beyond Obama's ray of light, Franzen said he genuinely felt the last 10 years of politics were worse than usual, with more rampant lying in public discourse, and admitted to "being a little discouraged." The culture is more driven by technology, he added, which is "all about simulation, as opposed to interaction or discussion." (That complaint draws on a media critique Franzen has made for some time, including a widely discussed lecture and essay this year, "Linking is for Cowards. Go for What Hurts").
Finally, in more literary news, Franzen confirmed that he is writing an adaptation of "The Corrections" as a full, four-year television series for HBO.  The flim rights to that book were actually optioned back in 2001, by Scott Rudin, but a full length feature never got off the ground.  It's a little hard to imagine the book, focusing on the grandparents of a Midwestern family, excelling as a movie or series.  Yet as Franzen said on Saturday, mainstream success has made him a less angry and more positive person, and with the right attitude, maybe the book will make for great TV.

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